The Long Now, Pt. 2 – Make, Protect, Teach

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Ben Salisbury
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Ben Salisbury

This is so cogent and powerful that it will take some time to digest but the importance cannot be understated. I really appreciate it.

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Ben Salisbury
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Ben Salisbury

Jack: Did you know there’s a Fight Club up in Delaware City?

Tyler: Yeah, I heard.

[Car Alarm]

Jack: There’s one in Penn’s Grove, too. Bob even found one up in Newcastle.

Tyler: Yeah. Did you start that one?

Jack: No. I thought you did.

Tyler: Nah.

Together: Pff!

[Car Alarm]

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Ben Hunt
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Ben Hunt

Thanks, Ben!

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Greeny
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Greeny

Just perfect. Left with chills, again…

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Kristin
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Kristin

If your readers have not read “Shop Class as Soul Craft,” I commend it to them. Those with a religious inclination should look at “The Benedict Option” by Rod Dreher who discusses a lot of the same concerns and points about creating small, local cultures that can withstand the tides of disintegration that are rolling in.

This article resonated with me all the way to the statement about empowering teachers as political and civic leaders. They may be engaged in a noble profession, and individually heroic, but as a group they’re impossibly corrupt, politically ideological (rhinoceroses?), and advocate for things that are directly contrary to the welfare of children. In a sense, they should act like fiduciaries, but they have large conflicts of interest and engage in self-dealing.

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Ward Good
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Ward Good

Mathew Crawford is brilliant. I second that recommendation. Also every novel by Alan Furst but the first one _Dark Star_ begins in Romania and it is about being caught between “the opposite but similar barbarisms of Nazism and Bolshevism”

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Evan
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Evan

I agree with Kristin’s second point. This sentence struck me as not necessarily my experience.

“I think the answer to teachers’ pay scales isn’t to pay them like a corporate lawyer or an investment banker, but to reward their superior social participation through superior political representation.”

I still remember my freshman English teacher saying to our class, “the only thing I’m not allowed to do with class time is read to you. So, each of you will just read silently to yourself.” Even at the time, as a 9th grader, I was disappointed.

Then I think of the doctor who gave me stitches at the urgent care at 9pm, and I couldn’t be more grateful. Or how my local pediatrician office provides unscheduled office hours from 8 to 12 on Saturday and Sunday mornings so we don’t have to take our kids to the ER.

My point being that maybe profession isn’t a great factor for assigning superior political representation.

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Barry Rose
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Barry Rose

“For anyone who believes that [ Julian] Assange is a ‘rapist’ who is ‘evading justice’ and is ‘holed up at the embassy’ because he is a ‘coward’; indeed, anyone who focuses on the actions and personality of Assange instead of the content of the leaks published by his organization…for you the message is this: You will not realize it (yet) but you have been successfully co-opted into the propaganda efforts to deflect attention from the numerous, horrific, documented crimes of imperial interests and the deep corruption of major institutions and their top officials. The people responsible for disseminating this propaganda will laugh at how they have successfully transformed you into a pack of animals baying for the blood of one man whose ‘crime’ has been to shine a spotlight on the corruption they are paid well to obscure. They will chortle with delight at your almost complete lack of interest in the decades upon decades of mass murder, torture, rapes, oppression and illegal coups that have been carried out in your name with your taxes and with the help of officials you have voted for, while you focus your ire instead on one of the most obvious set-ups (that of Assange) ever…along with all the other tried-and-tested distractions. The only thing that may astound even them is how easy it has been to manipulate you. In the internet age, ignorance really is a choice – the choice between being a manipulated dupe and a free thinker. Quite literally, millions of… Read more »

Chris Patton
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Thanks for this quote. Most of us are far from perfect, and anyone subjected to what Julian Assange experienced, well… We should not be too quick to judge harshly.

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Jacob Magid
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Jacob Magid

While your notes have always been thoughtful and intellectually stimulating, this is the first one to my memory that feels empowering. Thank you

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Ben Salisbury
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Ben Salisbury

sorry, i dont think i have ever actually commented on an internet post before.

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Mike Sharkey
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Thanks Ben. There is always ‘weather’ … it can often be understood/interpreted (more or less) by season … it amazes me that a huge percentage of the global population doesn’t seem to understand that this is true in culture, politics and economics … Thanks for pointing it out.

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Ben Salisbury
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Ben Salisbury

Just re-read and I really hope that this goes down as a pivotal document in our country’s history.

Really ties together the loose ends that I (we) have been trying to work through for years.

Its a powerful call to action that is going to really stick in my craw as someone firmly but uncomfortably outside the Maker-Teacher -Protector realm. Some tough choices to make.

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Kevin Veldman
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Truly excellent work. Thank you, Ben. This right here is the plan I’ve been longing to see, trying to formulate in my own head, but get distracted by the rhinos and their rampaging.

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Ben Hunt
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Ben Hunt

Thanks, Kevin!

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J Z
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J Z

I thought the 2nd foundation partner’s strategy is to hide in plain sight. This makes it too obvious. The make-protect-teach folks need to have some rhino skins, you know, just to look like them and survive until the day when new rules will be made.

Evil is like gravity, all you need is a little push. Joker in Dark Knight. We will have a lot of little pushes and we will fight gravity, with the pack.

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Mark Clark
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Mark Clark

Quite a thought provoking piece, Ben. I’ll have to read it several times because it raises so many questions and potential gray areas.
What exactly do you mean by “the business of business”? Obviously the petroleum engineer who designs a well frack that produces x number of additional barrels of oil is within the Make-Protect-Teach triangle. But is the management team that assembles the land, equipment and capital to make drilling the well possible on the outside? How can the engineer practice his profession without the resources brought within the confines of a for profit business? And that raises questions from those who think that the engineer that makes oil production more efficient is actually destroying the planet or at the least not making anything of value.

And are you suggesting that only those within the Make-Protect-Teach triangle be allowed to participate in the political process?
If so then I give you all the credit in the world for going out on the limb with such a controversial idea. I look forward to more clarity and detail from you on this topic in the coming months.

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Tom OConnor
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Tom OConnor

This post is emotionally powerful and a vivid depiction of what has happened elsewhere…the factual counterpart to Sinclair Lewis’ fictional (but plausible) book It Can’t Happen Here. It can happen here! I am still figuring out what to do about it.

My first step was to become, at last, a paying member of the Pack. Let’s do this!

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Wraith
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Wraith

This was the note, I think, for many ET’ers, that spanned the divide between the framework of “Clear Eyes, Full Heart”, particularly as to how to support the Process, with all of the activities we do day-to-day, week to week. Reconciling what we do for a living with the concreted world that ET has helped us see. Ben described “The Shadow” as the inauthenticity of communication, “Between the idea and the Reality, between the motion and the act falls the Shadow”. I saw it as the inconsistencies between the Metaverse (The Snow Crash one that basically envelops most professions) artifacts (narratives, cartoons, half truths, abstractions, lies) and the Process as described in Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can’t Lose. You see the Metaverse clearly, but what do you DO? This is Cypher in the Matrix, eating a steak and deciding that he cannot deal with the Shadow, the new knowledge of his real state. And as Ben said “You cannot unsee the Shadow”, instead you focus on minimization through honesty. Make-Protect-Teach is honesty in action. “But it doesn’t have to be your day job, just your Identity”. It’s great. Having said that, at some point I do think that eventually if the day job and Identity clash enough, the Shadow will loom taller. Compartmentalization can work for some people to an extent. But only so far. That’s the challenge many of us face. It’s the hardest thing I have had to face philosophically, probably ever. Thanks for your note above Ben,… Read more »

David Hunt
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David Hunt

Long time listener, first time caller. There are many thing I love about ET, but one of the best things about it is the truths it reveals – truths that are right in front of us but that we don’t see until they are revealed by the truthtellers of ET. I can’t tell you how many ET notes I have read that have made me say “Yes!” and helped me better understand the world. But, not this note. The “Make, Protect, Teach” principle Ben espouses misses the mark for me. There is a kernel of truth to it, but only a kernel, and it would set us down the wrong path. The error in the “Make, Protect, Teach” principle is in equating a person’s occupation – what they do to make money and survive in this world – with that person’s value to society. Now, I’m not saying a person’s occupation has no correlation to their value to society, but it is not a direct correlation. Take teachers for instance. Just being a teacher doesn’t make you a positive member of society. There are lots of small-minded, petty, vindictive, and generally crappy teachers out there. And by the same token, being a corporate lawyer, banker, or member of business management doesn’t mean that you aren’t a positive member of society. These occupations (and, full disclosure, I am one of those nasty corporate lawyers everyone loves to hate) are all vital and necessary to modern society and have every bit as… Read more »

Chris Patton
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Regarding the pogroms described above: In short I believe that an image or graphic would inspire less thought than Ben’s word picture. I truly appreciate Ben’s word craft and the concepts they communicate on multiple levels all at once. Today’s generation is image focused from memes on up to doctored news photos, but the more digital experience we gain, the less we trust the images that dominate present media. At 69+ years I am fortunate to have three sons in the low to mid-20s. Despite the sometimes personal frustration from culture gap, they are a window into the present distortions and how they relate to their generation. This is true though we tried to insulate them from a lot of this until they were older through home education with heavy literary emphasis,. I do see evidence that it is still there – at least in part, as they have higher critical opinions of what is going on in their cultural surrounds. Yes, I do share Ben’s articles, and I know some of them are read. For most of the last 20 years, I chose to work daily in the Make, Protect, Teach alternate dimension of today’s rhino narrative. The financial payment to date has been minimal. As the founder (seven years ago on 9/11) of a new agricultural cooperative focused on our native North American Elderberry, I work with multiple dozens of farmers and small businesses from coast-to-coast. Elderberry is not a primary crop, but presents an opportunity for quality… Read more »

FiddlerOnTheRoof
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FiddlerOnTheRoof

Ben,
I love the essay. As to the repeated evolution of societal disintegration, I return to the lessons of Neil Howe’s The Fourth Turning. As to the nascent awareness and resolution of societal evolution, I call the Pack, “martians” and I consider myself a charter member. I am 75 years old and I have been looking for the island of “martians” described in Brave New World most of my life. Here is the rub. Only one of my friends, in addition to my wife, is also a member of the pack, a martian. I responded to your notice of interest in participating in a pack and I not only commend it, I think it may be the only way we find each other. Kudos.

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christine wong
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I can see how that attitude affects my husband’s profession as dentists. Group practice everywhere. Dentists graduate with huge debts. Unnecessary Treatment suggested in the name of prevention… Can we join as members of the health professionals?

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Philip Taylor
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Philip Taylor

Incredibly piece, Ben – inspiring. You’ve persuaded me to join the pack (OK, I was a little jealous of the food porn photo too!)

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Mark Coppin
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Mark Coppin

I’ve been reading for years, but this note clinched it for me…time to join “for realz”. So much to digest here.

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Tyler Harris
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Tyler Harris

“Every three or four generations, humanity consumes itself with the fang and claw of fascism and collectivism. Every three or four generations, we eat our own.”

This cyclical pattern is something I’ve wanted to study more deeply since my first exposure to it reading Ibn Khaldun’s theories, written 700 years ago, of the rise and fall of dynasties in the ancient Near East. After reading this post, I searched for more resources. I found “The Fourth Turning” by William Strauss which looks decent on first impression.

Can any members of the Pack recommend any additional resources for studying this pattern? A robust data-driven approach to the problem would be invaluable, given our human tendency to see patterns everywhere we look.

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Brendan Doran
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Brendan Doran

100K?

You are amazing Sir.

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Mourad
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Mourad

Ben, This is an article in which the “preventive ship from flaying a five y.o. has sailed” and is all but certain to happen because every few generations “we eat our own”. You are 100% wrong. And I am going to prove to the entire world you are wrong. If I fail, I will be wrong about one human’s statement, while you will have given up on humanity. Even under the best of circumstances when making trades and investments, I approach them all with hope of gain, not with certainty. I view the process of constructing causal chains to execute a certain view of markets as a prerequisite prayer to hope, sometimes inspite of the odds. In life, it is mostly inspite of the odds. This is the essence of being a human. This is the third time I am reading this article and it left me wondering how I could have missed such anomaly in a human being in whose mind unspeakable outcome is but certain regardless of actions. This cannot be a human. If you and I meet, it will be over a game of poker, or whichever is your favorite, and I will be kicking your ass all the way to Alabama where hopefully you will come across the soul of your father, a doctor, in whose career am certain that realm of causes pertaining to a patient seized to exist at least once, only to find himself doing what’s best anyway. Because it is clear you… Read more »

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