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What is Permissible

Rusty Guinn

June 24, 2020·6 comments

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psherman's avatar
pshermanover 5 years ago

Well written and terrific article Rusty. Thanks.

Although I hope we can change from within, I suspect that only the “denouement” in markets will force attention and true structural change.
similar to the 1930’s.

IMO, Fair to say that the Federal Reserve Board has added one more carving in their “Wall of Shame” by actively supporting (with public dollars) any and all badly run, greedy management teams.


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nickallenover 5 years ago

Well put, Rusty. I’m sure you’ve read Venkatesh Rao’s web series “The Gervais Principle”? I’m struck by your ability to clearly describe one of the key mechanisms of what he splits into “Powertalk” and “Babytalk”, the first being how the management classes communicate among themselves in CYA fashion, and the second being the ESG PR-type stuff.

https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/


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rguinnover 5 years ago

I am a fan of his work but haven’t seen this series. It’s now on my weekend reading list - thank you!


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rguinnover 5 years ago

I think that’s probably right - and part of why I think that seeking structural change is a fool’s errand, especially if we are right about the underlying causes and need to make markets into utilities. But there are not so many public companies that asset owners cannot make meaningful change on a company-by-company basis without spending effort on “structural change.”


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peter.piccininiover 5 years ago

Not very sanguine…Hard for a frog to adjust the temperature of the boiling water. Best to JUMP out…The only way for this to STOP is to LEAVE…


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Desperate_Yuppieover 5 years ago

Rusty bringing fire today. Beautiful.

I had a pure ET moment today when I read this story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-24/bank-dividends-in-peril-with-crisis-veterans-warning-of-trouble?sref=5dE0gZJ9

Why am I reading this now? Are the banks using their missionaries at Bloomberg to soften the ground for a sector-wide dividend cut? They’d be happy to do it. Companies want to keep the money rather than pay it to us as shareholders. But usually they get clobbered when they cut dividends. But what if you could engineer an environment where not returning money to shareholders was viewed as the prudent thing to do? How would you go about doing it? Would anyone stop them? Not their respective boards, certainly.

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